Plantagenet, Eleanor (b. 1311, d. 11 JAN 1371/72)

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:26).
Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Per Farmerie, Stasser's article verifies this generation.

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:36), (326:35).
On 21 Nov 1997, Todd A. Farmerie posted the following regarding new research on this family:
> 1a.Fredolon, Count of Toulouse, succeeded by brother:
> 1b.Raymond I, Count of Toulouse
> 2a.Bernard, Count of Toulouse (attempts have been made to make
> Raymond I, Count of Pallars and Ribagorza son of Bernard
> (based primarily on nomenclature, but I don't buy it.)
> 2b.Eudes, Count of Toulouse [i.e this individual]
> 3a.Raymond II, Count of Toulouse
> 4a.Raymond III Pons, Count of Toulouse
> 3b.Ermengaud, Count of Rouergue
> 4b.Raymond, Count of Rouergue
It was Raymond of Rouergue who married Bertha and was father of Raymond and grandfather of Hugh of Rouergue. Raymond III Pons married a Guinilda, and has traditionally been shown as father or grandfather of the William in question (the intervening Pons was actually a brother of
William, and never Count). Guinilda continued to appear as Raymond Pons' widow much later. Also Raymond of Rouergue appears in some official capacity, and a minority of authors have suggested that Raymond Pons died childless (or at least sonless) and that Raymond of Rouergue succeeded to the County of Toulouse. We now also have that previously misplaced Raymond, husband of Adelaide and father of William, who can not be positively identified in any contemporary charters. What we are left with is massive confusion. One author (of the AB article) goes out on a limb and claims that Raymond, husband of Adelaide, was son of
Raymond of Rouergue by an earlier wife than Bertha (and hence distinct from half-brother Raymond II, Count of Rouergue), while the author of the Moyen Age article is more cautious, giving this version equal weight to a more traditional descent from Raymond Pons, with the new Raymond as RP's son. This question clearly requires a more detailed reevaluation than what has been given it thus far.

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:35).
On 15 Dec 1997, Todd Farmerie posted the ancestry of TERESA ALFONSO (RIN 2401) based on the latest research. This generation is confirmed in that posting.

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (54:35), calls him Armengol.
On 15 Dec 1997, Todd Farmerie posted the ancestry of TERESA ALFONSO (RIN 2401) based on the latest research. This generation is confirmed in that posting.

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Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (105:33), (108:23), (144:22).
Per Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (95:32) & (291:35), Seigneur of Comminges, Count of Carcassonne and Conserans.

Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Stasser gives as children of Roger & ADELAIDE:
. Arsinde m. William, Count of Beziers
. Ermessinde m. Raymond, Count of Barcelona
. Raymond
. Bernard
. Peter
. dau. m. William Amelius

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (291:36) calls her the heiress of Carcassonne and Rasez and identifies her as the daughter of Acfred II, Count of Carcassonne (RIN 2277*). However. . .
Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Farmerie says in that Posting:
. "Arsinde, the wife of Roger's father Arnaud Count of Comminges, is typically called heiress of the last of the first house of Carcassonne, descended from Bellon. Her name, and the names given three (and as will be argued, four) of her children - Eudes, Garsinde, and Arsinde (and Adelaide) suggest a connection with the Counts of Toulouse, and specifically her placement as daughter of Ermengaud, Count of Rouergue and his wife Adelaide. Garsinde would then be the name of her sister, aunt, and grandmother, Eudes that of her paternal grandfather, and Arsinde that of her great aunt and great-great grandmother."

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Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Per Farmerie, Stasser's article verifies this generation. Stasser also gives a son to Bernard II & SENEGONDE, Peter, Bishop of Maguelonne.

Note: Notes
Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Per Farmerie, Stasser's article verifies this generation.

Note: Notes
Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Per Farmerie, Stasser's article verifies this generation.

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (326:34). Count of Toulouse and Albi, Marquis of Gothie. Stuart identifies his wife as Gunhilde, dau. of WILFRED THE HAIRY, but. . .
On 15 Dec 1997, Todd Farmerie posted the ancestry of TERESA ALFONSO (RIN 2401) based on the latest research. Farmerie agrees that Raimond's wife was named GUNHILDE, but that her parentage is open to speculation.
This generation is confirmed in that posting. Farmerie says he fl. 919 - 924. However. . .

Todd A. Farmerie reviews the article "Autour de Roger de Vieux: les alliances matrimoniales des comtes de Carcassonne" from the Annales du Midi, 108:165-187, by Thierry Stasser in a 16 July 1998 posting to GEN-MEDIEVAL (subject: Carcassonne (Toulouse and Rouergue)). Farmerie
thinks this is the best work done to date with these families. Farmerie says in that posting:
. " Raymond II of Toulouse is usually given a wife Guidinilde, but Stasser presents an alternative hypothesis. The Codice de Roda says that Pons of Toulouse (usually taken to be Raymond Pons) married a daughter of Garcia Sanchez. It also states that Garcia had daughters Andregoto and _____. This is problematic, since Garsinde, wife of Raymond Pons, appears to have belonged to a different family. A forged charter (thought to contain authentic genealogical material) relating to
the abbey of Sainte-Croix de Bordeaux names a Count William of Bordeaux, with parents Raymond and Andregoto. Based on these two fragments of information, Stasser suggests that the Codice de Roda married the daughter of Garcia to the wrong Raymond, and that it was Raymond II who married Andregoto Garces, and by her had Raymond Pons
and William ofBordeaux."

Note: Notes
Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (246C:27) calls her Maud "de Mandeville" . (246B:27) refers to her as "lady of Costow, co. Wilts." However, see the notes for her son GEOFFREY, which refutes her connection to the Mandevilles.
Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Essex, p.122), refers to her merely as Maud, giving no parents for her.

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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (84:27), her son, ROBERT MADUIT's, maternal grandfather was SIMON DE ST. LIZ, Earl of Huntindon.

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Was Chamberlain of the exchequer to King Henry II.

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Baron of Hameslape; Chamberlain of the exchequer to King Henry I.

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The surname Mauduit comes from the French for "ill-behaved".
William was a domesday tenant and was the chamberlain of the treasury.

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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (113A:25), he was Count de Perche and Mortagne; fought at the Battle of Hastings with WILLIAM THE CONQUERER and died Oct 1100. Also mentioned (151:24), (153:24).

Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (178:30) & (249:30).

William Addams Reitwiesner posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 27 Mar 1997:
Subject: Re: Counnts of Perche (Normandy) circa 1050 ad
"While *Royalty for Commoners* does have information on the Perche family, the earlier generations may or may not connect. Geoffrey II (249-32) is described there as a son of Hugh I (249-33), when he was actually a "nepos" of Hugh. See *Europaeische Stammtafeln*, ed. Detlev Schwennicke, Band III, Teilband 4, Tafel 689, for a more reliable genealogy of this family."

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Turton's "Plantagenet Ancestry", says he d. 1038 or 1058 (handwiting hard to decipher). Calls him VC de Chateaudun and has him as son of Warin de Alcenon (RIN 4481*) and Melisinde.
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners (249:31), says he was also Seigneur de Nogent-le-Rotrou; d. bef. 1005; and son of HUGH and HILDEGARDE as I show here.

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners (249:32), calls him Count of Carbon (later called Montagne).

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Turton's "Plantagenet Ancestry", shows Warin and Melisinde as parents of GEOFFREY II, VC DE CHATEAUDUN (RIN 4479).
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners (249:31), calls him Warin de Belleme (de Domfront), Seigneur de Domfront and son of WILLIAM & MATILDA. Stuart, however shows different parents for GEOFFREY.

Turton's "Plantagenet Ancestry", has two individuals 0n p.179 - Warine d'Alcenon and Guerin de Domfort, which are apparently, in fact, the same.
Stuart is infering that Turton is in error in making him the father of GEOFFREY II [called GEOFFREY I by Turton], VC DE CATEAUDUN.

Both Stuart and Turton agree that he was father of Adeline.

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Turton's "Plantagenet Ancestry", has her father as GEOFFREY II DE DUNOIS.
Another undocumented source calls her the Millicent, dau. & heiress of Hugh, Count of Chateaudun.

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Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (63A:29).
Turton's "Plantagenet Ancestry" makes him identical with Oliver de Tracy in Weis's (25:28), but Weis does not make this identification and shows different chronologies for the two and their two sons Henry. This Oliver's relationship to the other Tracys is not given.

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Per Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Butler, p.447, note a), her sister, Bertha, was wife of Ranulph de Glanville, the great Justiciar. This circumstance greatly contributed to the advancement of the Butler family. She brought to her husband the manors of Edlington & Newborough in Yorkshire. After THEOBALD's death, she m. Fulk FitzWarin.
[I don't know if this Fulk was an ancestor of Fulk FitzWarin (RIN 5012*)]

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According to Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Derby, pp. 190), he was slain in the civil wars which distracted Normandy during the minority of Duke WILLIAM (RIN 798 - later King WILLIAM I "The Conquerer" of England).

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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . . " (26:30), (39:30), (59:31), Lord Berkeley of Berkeley castle.
Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Berkeley, pp. 128-129). Called "Maurice the magnanimous". He distinguished himself in the Scottish wars 1295- 1318, and was at the siege of Carlaverock (as was his father) in 1300. He held several important posts, being Warden of Gloucestershire 1312, Capt. of Berwick 1315, one of the commissioners to Scotland 1316, Chief Justiciar of South Wales 1316, and Seneshal of Aquitaine 1320. Shortly afterwards he joined the Earl of Lancaster [Thomas (RIN 2859*)] in the rebellion against King Edward II (RIN 4240*) and the Despenser family, and within 6 months of his father's death was made a prisoner at Wallingford castle, where he died 4 years later.

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Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (26:28).
Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Berkeley, p.127, note a), states that the old idea that she was dau. of Richard, Earl of Cornwall (RIN 2802*) (yr, br. of King HENRY III), or of his s. & h., Edmund, also Earl of Cornwall, is refuted in Smith'e "Berkeley's", v1, p.144.

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Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Berkeley, pp. 125-126). She is said to have died at an extremely old age.

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Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Berkeley, p. 124). He completed the building of Berkeley Castle, which had been started by his father. He suffered much in the wars between [the future king] STEPHEN and the Empress MAUD, at the hands of Walter, son of MILES, EARL OF HEREFORD.
He was deprived of the manor of Berkeley abt 1152, apparently for refusing to recognise the authority of either party. KING HENRY II (RIN 761) gave Berlely Castle to ROBERT FITZHARDING, who later married Roger's daughter, ALICE. Roger was made feudal lord of Dursley

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Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Berkeley, p. 124). Probably son of the elder Roger. He had a brother, Eustace of Nympesfield. He began building Berkeley Castle in 1117.

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Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Berkeley, pp. 123-124). By 1071, he had been made Provost of the manor of Berkely by WILLIAM FITZOSBERN (RIN 1171), to whom it had been granted at the conquest. He took his name from the place. He spent his last two years as a monk.

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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (110:24), (111:24), (185:3). He was a crusader in 1101 and the first known singer-poet in the vernacular. As Count of Poitiers, William VII. (183:3) identifies Dangerose as his mistress.
Gayle Wilson posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 6 May 1997 (in part):
Subject: RE Eleanore of Aquitaine
". . . according to my research, based predominantly on Garaud's 'Chatelains de Poitou', Dillange's 'Les Comtes de Poitou Ducs d'Aquitaine', and, of course, Pere Anselme. . .
Guillaume IX 'le Troubadour' Comte Poitou =
1)Ermengarde d'Anjou
2)Philippie de Toulouse
This Guillaume had at least one mistress, who has caused quite a deal of scandal. . . Dangereuse Maubergeonne. Well, if we are to believe the tales of the troubadours and chronicleers, her presence paid homage to her name. The affair she had with this Guillaume certainly gave the
gossip-mongers fuel for their fires. . . Guillaume IX 'le Troubadour' Comte Poitou was Duc d'Aquitaine 1086-1126. By his second wife, he was father of many children, including Guillaume X Comte d'Poitou."



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"Caroli Magni Progenies" by Siegfried Rosch, identifies her as a dau. of THEOBALD I.
She was to remain a figure of authority in her son's court until her death in 1004."

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Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (45:22), (110:23).
As Count of Poitiers, William III.

This was Duke William V, the Great, who reigned from 993 to 1030 and whose character seems to bear the imprint of that of his mother. He was married 3 times. He had a son named William by each of his wives.
Each of the three Williams, in turn, became Duke of Aquitaine and Count of Poitiers. The first died without progeny. The 2nd and 3rd were our ancestors.

Gayle Wilson posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 6 May 1997 (in part):
Subject: RE Eleanore of Aquitaine
". . . according to my research, based predominantly on Garaud's
'Chatelains de Poitou', Dillange's 'Les Comtes de Poitou Ducs d'Aquitaine',
and, of course, Pere Anselme. . .Guillaume V 'Le Grand' Comte d'Poitou =
1)Agnes de Gevaudan
2)Brisque de Gascogne
3)Agnes de Bourgogne
Guillaume V (Poitou) is son of Guillaume IV and Emma de Blois. He fathered a lot of children, but for purposes of this discussion, by Agnes de Gevaudan he is father of Guillaume VI Comte Poitou. By Brisque, he is father of Eudes Duc d'Aquitaine, who succeeded his half brother,
Guillaume VI. By Agnes Bourgogne, Guillaume V was the father of Pierre-Guillaume, and Gui-Geoffroy (among others). Guillaume V was Duc d'Aquitaine 993-1030."

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (94:34) calls himKing of Lombardy, joint-king of Italy, 950/961.
According to the genealogical chart in Chris Wickham's book, "Early Medieval Italy", he reigned alongside his father as king of Italy from 950 to 962.

The LDS AF shows a daughter of Adalbert and GERBERGA named BERTHA (RIN 2131), who married OLDERIC II MANFREDI. The "Dictionary of Royal Lineage", however, has BERTHA as the daughter of OBERTO II (RIN 1688),
a descendant of ADALBERTO I, Marquis of Tuscany (RIN 1692), which is how I have chosen to show it here.

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Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (146:17). His parents are not given.
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (332:37), citing ES II:59, gives his parents as ANSCAR & GISELLE.

He was Marquis of Ivrea from 900 to 929. KING BERENGER I (RIN 1470) had his army annaihilated by the Hungarians. In 900, perceiving BERENGER's weakness, the nobles of northwest Italy, led by Adalbert, revolted and elected LOUIS OF PROVENCE (i.e. KING LOUIS III)(RIN 2136) as king. Italian politics during Adalbert's lifetime centered around the power struggle between the German faction, which had supported BERENGER, and the French faction. Adalbert was of the French faction. Adalbert married BERENGER's daughter, GISELE. They became the parents of KING BERENGER II (RIN 1466).

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Settipani's "La prehistoire des Capetiens".
Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (174:40-2) shows: BOSO III, C of Turin, d.c.855, and East Frank, son of BOSO II, C in Italy, occ. 826, son of BOSO I, C in Italy, occ. 750.

That Boso was Richilda's father is also confirmed by the genealogical chart on p. 281 of Christopher Cope's "The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy".

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Count of Vienne & Bellay. The identity of his parents continues to be the subject of much debate. The leading proponent of Louis the Blind and Anna of Byzantium is Christian Settapani, who admits that absolute proof is lacking, but that the preponderance of evidence is strong.
Todd Farmerie comments:
Charles Constantine is the documented son of Louis the Blind. He has traditionally been called illegitimate, but this was almost solely due to his failure to inherit his father's titles, ignoring the fact that his father was not in a position to pass anything to his son, having lost all to his enemies (and friends). It is his name that caused a reevaluation of this maternity. While the name Charles harkens back to his (by this time distant) ancestor, Charlemagne, but Constantine is a novelty. While one could (and people have) derive the use of this name to the late -Carolingian classicism which caused Hugh Count of Maine to use the
name David, the alternative solution is really the simplest - that this name, while having a link to antiquity, relates more immediately to Emperor Constantine, son of Leo IV, and uncle of the child(ren) of Louis and Anna - that Charles Constantine was their legitimate son.

In a note on p. 281 of his book, "The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy",
Christopher Cope, mentions that Charles is thought by some to be the son of Hugh of Arles (RIN 3470*), but that other sources say he was the son of LOUIS THE BLIND and that Hugh ousted him and demoted him to count of Vienne. "The Dictionary of Royal Lineage" (p. 200) has him as the son of LOUIS THE BLIND, King of Italy and Provence as I've shown here.

Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." 141A:17, has his parents as LOUIS THE BLIND and ANNA, dau. of the Eastern Roman Emporer, LEO VI.

Stewart Baldwin posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 1 Nov 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: SAVOY
"Charles Constantine had two sons named Richard and Hugobert. Hugobert died after May 976, but nothing is known of his family. Settipani mentions the that Richard and Hugobert have been suggested as ancestors of the counts of Savoy, but rejects it as unlikely."

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Settipani's "La prehistoire des Capetiens" calls him Louis III, living 905.
Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (141A:17), (141B:18).

He succeeded his father as king of Provence. In 900, in the midst of a period of political instability, the nobles of northwest Italy, led by ADALBERT, MARQUIS OF IVREA (RIN 1468), elected Louis as their king.
He went to Rome, where he was also crowned as Emporer. He lost his support and gave up the Italian throne to BERENGER I of Friuli in 902. He tried again to take the throne in 905, but BERENGER captured him and had
him blinded. In his book, "The Lost Kingdom of Burgundy", Christopher Cope says that since he died with no sons, his successor was his regent, Hugh, Count of Arles (RIN 3470*). Most sources, however, hold that CHARLES CONSTANTINE was LOUIS' son as I've shown here.

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Per Weis' "Ancestral Roots . . ." (141A:15), she was the mistress of Emporer MICHAEL III, then married BASIL, his successor (and probably his murderer).
Eudocia's ancestry has been a subject of hot debate. Settipani's _Nos ancetres de l'Antiquite_ shows (in French) her father as "INGER (MARTINAKIOS?) logothete" with some further conjectures.

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According to "History of the Byzantine Empire", by A.A. Vasilev, she was from Paphlagonia in Asia Minor. She was famous for the restoration of image worship in the Empire.
C. Settipani, _Nos ancetres de l'Antiquite_ offers a conjectural reconstruction of her ancestry reaching back deep into antiquity. This generation appears to be the earliest that can be considered certain.

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According to "History of the Byzantine Empire",by A.A. Vasilev, Michael II was one of the commanders of the guards of Emporer Leo V, who was himself a military commander who rose to the throne after the last of
the Syryian Dynasty Emporers, Michael I, was deposed as the result of his unsuccessful campaign against the Bulgarians. Michael II, surnamed "The Stammerer", came from the fortress of Amorian in Phrygia, a provence in Asia Minor, hence the name of his dynasty - Amorian or
Phrygian. He was a coarse and ignorant provincial who spent his youth in Phrygia "among heretics, hebrews, and half-hellenized Phrygians." One late Syrian source asserts even that he was a Jew by birth. He reigned from 820 to 829.

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Stuart's "Royalty For Commoners" (173:38) notes : occ 883-885.
Stewart Baldwin posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 10 Nov 1996 (in part):
Subject: Re: Will the real Boso please stand up (was Re: SAVOY)
"The confusion that has led some to make Theodoric [Thierry I "the Treasurer" (RIN 1240)] the father of Boso [King of Provence (RIN 2137)] is briefly discussed by Settipani. Here is the short version. Theodoric did have a son named Richard [THIS RICHARD], who has been erroneously identified by some with duke Richard of Burgundy (King Boso's brother) [i.e. RICHARD THE JUSTICIAR (RIN 1238)], and this erroneous identification has led to Boso being incorrectly called the son of
Theodoric."

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Neither Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (39:28), nor Cokayne's "Complete Peerage" (Zouche, p.937), attempts to identify her parents.
dcrdcr4@@@@aol.com (Dcrdcr4) [Douglas Richardson] posted to
GEN-MEDIEVAL-L@@@@rootsweb.com on 26 Mar 1999
Subject: Re: SIR ROGER LA ZOUCHE:
. "This is based on original research not found elsewhere in print. . Margaret, wife of Roger la Zouche, was the daughter of Henry Biset, of Kidderminster, co. Worcester and Rockbourne, Hampshire. . ."

Note: Notes
Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (39:24) calls him Count of Cornouille and jure uxoris Duke of Brittany 1066. Also mentioned (119:24).
Per Galliou and Jones' "The Bretons", The middle decades of the 11th century were extremely turbulent in all western French principalities.
The minorities of WILLIAM THE CONQUERER (RIN 798) in Normandy and Conan II [ALAIN III's son/ Hoel's brother-in-law) in Brittany and the agressive policies of Geoffrey Martel, Count of Anjou [son of FULK NERRA (RIN 1258)], followed by a succession crisis on his death, stirred lesser figures, notably ambitious castellan lords, to assert their independence of central authority. This was seriously weakened in Brittany, as elsewhere, by civil war, especially that betweem Conan II and his uncle and former guardian, EUDES.
WILLIAM THE CONQUERER attracted several of the Breton lords from the northeast of the duchy into his service. In 1664 WILLIAM even campaigned in Brittany in behalf of Rivallon of Cambour and against Conan II. Conan was killed in 1066 while campaigning against the Angevins. He left no obvious heir and a succession crisis ensued. Hoel claimed the Duchy by right of his marriage to ALAIN III's daughter and Conan's sister, HAWISE, and held it until his own death in 1084, passing it on to his son, ALAIN IV FERGANT.

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Stewart Baldwin posted to
soc.genealogy.medieval on 29 Nov 1996:
Subject: Re: Brittany/Cornouille connection ?
When Anselme's "Histoire genealogique de la maison royale de France, et des grands officiers de la couronne" was written in 1674, and the revised versions were done in the next century, the authors were apparently just as concerned about the lack of good references regarding the early Breton lines, and their main account starts with Conan I, with only a brief discussion of the earlier generations. The main account of the counts of Cornouaille statrs with Alain Caignart, although there are a few sentences taking the line back to his grandfather, which is outlined below.

The "Dictionnaire de Biographie Francaise", vol. 1, in the article on Alain Caignart, gives a good bibliography, some of which appear to be primary sources. For the interest of those who want to follow this problem to the sources (and have the library access to support this desire), I have listed DBF's sources below.
The counts of Cornouaille (who were apparently in some cases also bishops of Cornouaille - I guess the prohibition against married clergy was not enforced in Brittany around this time.)
[Information from Anselme in brackets, otherwise from DBF]
[Budic, count of Cornouaille]
|
Benoit*, count and bishop of Cornouaille, [d. ca. 1026]
[md. Guinodeon]
|
Alain "Caignart", d. 1058 count of Cornouaille, ca. 1020-, and count of Nantes, 1054- (after the death of Judith's nephew Mathias, count of Nantes) md. Judith, dau. of Judicael, count of Nantes.
Alain's children:
1.) HOEL, duke of Brittany (by marriage).
2.) [Budic, d.1098].
3.) Quiriac, bichop of Cornouaille.
4.) Benoit, bichop of Cornouaille.
5.) [Agnes, m. EUDON (uncle of Duke Conan II of Brittany)].
Agnes, wife of EUDES: RIN 2032 - JAS note
6.) another [dau].

Note: Notes
Turton's "Plantagenet Ancestry."
See notes on his son-in-law, ALAIN CAIGNHART, Count of Cornouaille (RIN 4932).

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Weis" "Ancestral Roots. . ." (39:23), (119:24), (136:21), (137:21).
He was Count of Blois & Champagne. Rudolph III, the king of Burgundy had died in 1032. He was childless and Eudes, as his nephew, was to have been heir to the throne of Burgundy. the German EMPORER CONRAD II (RIN 2108), who had long been trying to bring Burgundy under his authority, had married one of Rudolph's nieces. Rudolph designated CONRAD as his sucessor.
Eudes contested the succession and was able to gather much support. As CONRAD was occupied fighting the Poles, Eudes was able to occupy western Switzerland . The Archbishop of Lyons, GEROLD, COUNT OF GENEVA (RIN 3530), and many others recognized Eudes as king.
CONRAD, however, was able to win HUMBERT I, COUNT OF MAURIENNE (RIN 2132), who was the founder of the house of Savoy, to his side. This gave CONRAD the upper hand, but he was unable to achieve final victory until Eudes perished in battle at Bar. CONRAD made his son, the future EMPORER, HENRY III (RIN 2107), king of Burgundy. From this time forward the king of Burgundy was under the authority of the German Emporers.

Note: Notes
Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (136:20), (159:20), identifiy her as EUDES' wife. (101:21) identifies her as EUDES' widow and the 2nd wife of KING ROBERT II. ROBERT repudiated her in 998.

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Weis' "Ancestral Roots. . ." (133:19), (147:19), (157:19). He succeeded his father as king of Burgundy in 912.
In 920 BERENGER I, KING OF ITALY (RIN 1470) enlisted Hungarian mercenaries into his army. This caused the magnates of the nortwest to rise in defiance. They invited Rudolph to assume the throne of Italy. He defeated Berenger at Fiorenzuola in 923. The next year the Hungarians burned Pavia, Italy's capitol city. Shortly thereafter Berengar was assasinated and Rudolph was recognized as king of Italy until 926, when
Hugh of Arles (RIN 3470) became king.
At this time in history western Europe was in a perilous position. It was being ravaged by the Vikings from the north and by the Saracens from the south. Then, in 919, The Magyars, led by ZOLTAN (RIN 2384), ravaged large areas of Rudolph's Burgundian lands. In 924 they reached the Rhone and threatened both Lombardy, which was under Rudolph's control and Provence, which was ruled by Hugh . Rudolph and Hugh were rivals for the throne of Italy.
Facing this common threat, Rudolph and Hugh buried their differences and joined forces to drive off the Hungarian invaders. An agreement was reached whereby Hugh was given the kingship of Italy in return for Rudolph being made ruler of Provence. The result was that Rudolph was now king of both Transjuran Burgundy and Provence, thus reviving the old
kingdom of Burgundy almost as it had existed in pre- Carolingian times.
Only the lands of RICHARD THE JUSTICIAR (RIN 867), which were to
become the French duchy of Burgundy, were excluded.